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Serious Question for Tax Advocates: Would You Cut off Your Balls . .
Jan 8th, 2020 at 7:43pm
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. . . if that was what it would take for taxes to continue?

I know it could never happen, it is hypothetical.

Suppose a genie or an angel or whatever offered you one wish, but it would have to be that something already existing continue to exist.  I assume that you would instantly say "taxes," since you insist that without taxes the world would descend into a hellish existence in which none of us would want to live, nor would be able to survive long in. 

Then the genie pulls the rug out from under you by saying that now you must cut off your balls to get your wish.  If you do not, he will instantly delete taxation from the world and prevent them from ever being levied again. 

Would you do it?  Or would you force yourself, your families and your future generations to live in the hell that would be the earth minus taxes?

  
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Re: Serious Question for Tax Advocates: Would You Cut off Your Balls . .
Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:01pm
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BTW, my point is not to say that if you advocate taxes, you have no balls already.  Substitute your right arm or your eyes if you like.

Would you cut off a needed body part so that taxes can continue?
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:02pm
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Why don't you just be open and admit that you are a homosexual?  It is not a big deal these anymore even if you were in the military.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:03pm
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yamcha wrote on Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:02pm:
Why don't you just be open and admit that you are a homosexual?  It is not a big deal these anymore even if you were in the military.


I'll admit I'm a f*g if Jeff and Kaz will give truthful answer to that question.

Hell, I'll put it in my sig if I can figure out how . . .

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This board censors the word f*g?

What if I'm a brit and I'm talking about a cigarette?

Can I say finger in the d**e?  Chink in the armor?  Or does the owner want to keep the board spic and span?

Oh, well. 




  
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Reply #4 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:29pm
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Ok here is the deal:
Jeff is actually a good man.  He has some social issues and is unable to think abstractly and doesn't get a lot of the jokes but he is a good man.  He believes that government can be good.  I don't agree but I respect that he does.  Sometimes he likes to play the devil's advocate in order to fish for your true thoughts on a subject.  This is a waste of time and he should just be straight forward.

kaz is just a natural-born dick.  He never gets to a point and his objective is to bitch.  The guy argues everything and then can't explain or back up anything he says but then reverse the blame back on your for not understanding his nonsense.  The first step to going forward is to admit your mistakes and he has no mistake.  I advise that you stop letting him bate you for in the end, he has no solutions.  kaz goes nowhere just like violent jazz music.

I asked you why you called me a welfare queen?  Why would you think that?  Yeah, I hate taxes and do my best to evade the IRS but I have never taken welfare.  I am somewhat independently wealthy and I grew up in wealth.

I want all welfare and social security to end and I am happily willing to not collect SS when I am older if it could end the Ponzi scheme cycle.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:35pm
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yamcha wrote on Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:29pm:
Ok here is the deal:
Jeff is actually a good man.  He has some social issues and is unable to think abstractly and doesn't get a lot of the jokes but he is a good man.  He believes that government can be good.  I don't agree but I respect that he does.  Sometimes he likes to play the devil's advocate in order to fish for your true thoughts on a subject.  This is a waste of time and he should just be straight forward.

kaz is just a natural-born dick.  He never gets to a point and his objective is to bitch.  The guy argues everything and then can't explain or back up anything he says but then reverse the blame back on your for not understanding his nonsense.  The first step to going forward is to admit your mistakes and he has no mistake.  I advise that you stop letting him bate you for in the end, he has no solutions.  kaz goes nowhere just like violent jazz music.


I agree with those assessments. 

However, I do believe that Jeff will not truthfully answer the above question.  I believe that refusing to answer questions in a debate about political systems is a genuine character flaw.  It's like challenging someone to a boxing match and wearing a motorcycle helmet and catcher's chest protector. 
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:40pm
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yamcha wrote on Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:29pm:
I asked you why you called me a welfare queen?  Why would you think that?  Yeah, I hate taxes and do my best to evade the IRS but I have never taken welfare.  I am somewhat independently wealthy and I grew up in wealth.

I want all welfare and social security to end and I am happily willing to not collect SS when I am older if it could end the Ponzi scheme cycle.


In that case I withdraw my "welfare queen" accusation and apologize for making it.  You asked my why I asked it and I had just said not answering questions is a character flaw, so I'd be hoisted on my own petard if I did not answer it.

I don't actually remember calling you that, but my memory is faulty these days, so I believe you if you said I did.  I likely assumed that you like taxes and want to keep the goodies coming which is almost every tax advocates secret reason.

If I was wrong about that, then add that false assumption to the above apology. 


  
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Reply #7 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 8:52pm
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You never read what I said I stand for so let me post it again.  These are my complete values So please read:

My goal?  What is my goal?

Yes, as much liberty and sovereignty as there is.  To have 100% free speech.  To keep all my income.  Others should want the same.

Slavery = having all fruits of your labor taken from you.

We have decided that slavery is wrong and immoral. So even 1% tax is slavery and we have decided slavery is wrong and immoral.

I only want taxation through volunteerism.  All nations are just open-air slave plantations, allowing their indentured servant populations to choose their occupation, giving the illusion of freedom then swooping in on payday to steal the fruits of their labor.  This is why all governments are criminal and immoral and why the only just system of government is anarchism or volunteerism.

There is no political solution to the problem of government.  Voting for a new ceremonial figurehead every 4 years has never, can never and could never create any lasting positive change because governments cannot improve or be made moral from within.  There are too many vested interests and no statist system be it monarchy, oligarchy, communism, democracy, republic or dictatorship, none of them respect the right of the individual to opt-out of being governed.

When the mafia comes around to your business they always promise to protect you providing you pay and obey them.  If you refuse to comply, however, the mafia burns your fukking business to the ground.  Similarly, are statist governments promise to help and protect their populations as long as we pay and obey but if we don't then they seize our asses and our assets and throw us in a cage.

The problem is giving one privileged class the legal right to commit violence and coercion against the rest of the population.  All fukking governments initiate the use of violence in the form of peace officers and coercion, in the form of taxes against their populations and this is completely immoral and unacceptable.  Consensual sex is moral because it is voluntary, whereas rape is immoral because it is forced.  Similarly, things like charity, donation and the free market because they are voluntary, whereas theft and taxation are immoral because they are forced.

The root problem with government is not that it is inherently criminal or corrupt, these are just symptoms and side effects of statism.  The root problem is that its mandates are mandatory and its compulsions, compulsory  For a government to be made into moral institutions, all taxes and interactions must be made voluntary.


And it is important to note: Governments, just like Countries, Borders, Laws and other abstract concepts, do not actually exist.  It sure seems like governments exist since they have the power to murder, steal from, or imprison their populations for whatever whims tickle their fancy.  But in actual fact, they do not exist.  Only people exist.  People in fitted uniforms exist;  Police, soldiers, politicians, prison guards, public school teachers, and welfare recipients exist.  The people who work for and benefit from the system, are the system.  Without people willing to murder, steal from, or imprison their fellow brothers and sisters in the name of government, there is no government.  What government would we have if no one showed up on election day?  Who would shake us down if no one paid up on tax day?  Who would brainwash our children if no one sent them to public schools?  Who would fight foreign wars if no one would be a soldier?

If people stopped working for the government, the government would cease to exist.  If people stopped voting, if people stopped paying taxes, the government would cease to exist.  Police, soldiers, politicians, all other government workers, and welfare recipients, are the beneficiaries of our stolen money.  They are all upstanding parasite citizens employed by a parasite system to parasite off everyone else.  They are all anti-entrepreneurs actively working against the free-market.  They are people who, through their actions, agree with, enable and enforce violence and coercion against their fellow man.  They grant themselves the legal right to counterfeit their own currency and imprison anyone else who tries.  Their paychecks come from the taxes we are all forced to pay them.  Their means of subsistence is counterfeit and theft.  And these thieves have the power to put us in prison if we don’t willingly hand over our hard-earned money, whenever, and however much they ask for.  Govern-Mental literally translates to Mind-Control – it’s time people realize they have been brainwashed by their Mafia Governments, stand up and say to all government employees a big “No Thanks For Your Service!“




  
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Reply #8 - Jan 8th, 2020 at 9:26pm
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I'll read it tomorrow Yamcha, so I can give it the attention it deserves.
  
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Little Biq Man wrote on Jan 8th, 2020 at 9:26pm:
I'll read it tomorrow Yamcha, so I can give it the attention it deserves.

Thank you.
  
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